On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 11:53:09 -0400, Zinj <[email protected]> wrote:
Zinj, you and I have had discussions over the years as to which of the current crop of ars posters are real scientology agents.
Way back, March of 2001 I had this comment:
>It is not obvious that net shills like "The Tucsoner" are OSA or even
>scientology members. They probably are, but with one or few postings
>the best of the trolls are hard to tell from the true cult operatives.
>Clark Bor, for example, is more likely a troll than an OAS agent.
>Everything in this post has been recycled from old OSA postings so a
>troll could do it.
While going through old postings I found something from Clark Bor that I must have missed at the time.
On Sept 14 late I posted this:
>>Officially I don't have notice of this thing--and Graham has not
>>managed to find someone who knows about it and will return a phone
>>call from Riverside DA's office. If anyone from the Riverside DA is
>>reading, let me help. My cell phone 650-776-5702, my lawyer's phone
>>is 310-393-2835. Unless it is late afternoon, I can't get out there
>>9/15, Friday. But we should be able to work out something over the
>>phone, some time next week perhaps.
Dated on Sept 17, Bor posted through an anon mailer (which might have had 2-3 days latency) this:
>According to page 3 of a declaration you posted to ars on 12 September
>you knew about the criminal charges filed against you by the District
>Attorney in Riverside and that Berry was going to represent you. What's
>happening Keith- can't you remember what you posted few days ago? Your
>own lies are catching up with you.
Which absolutely connects him to scientology--at the highest level. Might well have been one of the lawyers. Moxon&Kobrin, OSA and/or DM were the only ars readers who jumped to the conclusion that the statement I had put in the Sept. 12, 2000 declaration (in support of a motion on the Hertado deposition) indicated I knew about the indictment and notice to appear.
I didn't have the least idea until the cult entered a Hemet court printout they made Sept. 12 into a bankruptcy hearing Sept. 13, 2004 and nobody outside high levels of scientology jumped to the wrong conclusion I knew about the notice to appear because nobody else knew I had been indicted on Sept. 1, 2000.
The cult and members of the DA's office set up this scam to have me in a far away deposition at the same time and get me cited for failure to appear. It was their guilty knowledge--having set up this vicious scam--that made them read into what I wrote in for the Hertado motion that I knew about the indictment in Hemet.
What I wrote was true, Graham *had* made contact with someone in the DA's office in Riverside to tell them he was my lawyer, if they wanted to arrest me again, call him. But neither of us knew anything about the indictment. The cult lawyers knew about the never mailed arraignment notice--Paquet and Moxon (and maybe more) having set it up in a conspiracy with Tom Gage and others at the DA's office, perhaps as high as the elected DA Grover Trask.
I don't know that this *proves* the trial itself was a fraud, but it sure lends strong support to the notion.
I can see how they misread what I put in the declaration:
"Mr. Berry has been my counsel in this and a number of other matters since then, and is currently my counsel for surrender notice from the District Attorney in Riverside County on pending criminal charges involving purported threats of the use of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons of mass destruction."
*If* a person has a lawyer and the DA or police know he has a lawyer, the proper thing for them to do is to notify the lawyer (surrender notice) to bring in his client to be arrested and booked.
The scientology lawyers misread "surrender notice" to a lawyer for "notice to appear" to a defendant and thought I knew about it. Graham had been talking to the DA's office in Riverside (City) who claimed to know nothing about me. Graham didn't realizing the DA had an office in Hemet--40 miles away--and that's where they filed the charges.
They must have freaked--thinking someone in the Hemet DA's office had ratted them out and given me notice. And when they realized from my confused postings that I *didn't* know that must have caused even more of a flap over the blown opportunity to trick me into a "failure to appear" charge by not mailing the notice.