On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:25:41 -0700, Ted Mayett <[email protected]> wrote:
>I wish I could say I had read all of the posts on this subject that
>are allegedly coming from someone on the inside of this rpf.
>And I read what Keith Henson said about the difficulties of getting
>Police interested in this kind of thing, especially where the COS is
>I'm over 50 years old today but if I were still under 40 years old,
>then all by myself, with just a cell phone, I could storm this rpf
>thing and bring the attention of the world to this.
>But even today, with as little as 3 people for back up, I could still
>get past any doors they have, and get inside. And I would have dialed
>911 and would be on the phone with 911 by the time I was surrounded by
>Best would be a 5 person operation spread out so that the furthest
>person is about a mile away. And everyone with cell phones set to go
>with speed-dial, and a camera with a telephoto lens at least a quarter
>But you do all this, you storm the place at high speed knowing exactly
>where you are going, and everything is ready, and the Police are on
>the phone, and they cannot deny that.
>I question what it is that would be found in there. Would I find a
>bunch of brain dead cult members happily yelling at each other and
>being yelled at by each other.
>And let's say I did it perfect, impeccable timing of police response
>times and everything. And now the police are there also, and the
>Press. And what would it all come to anyway? Would there be any real
>crimes going on?
Almost certainly. Would anyone be arrested? Probably not. Would anyone be charged, very unlikely.
The for-certain crimes are related to jamming 50 people in a room and locking the fire escape doors. Until tens of people die from a fire in such conditions there is virtually no chance the authorities will bother with it.
As an example, you have my Aug 2002 posting where around the end of the year 2001 the house at 541 Clinton being used by Toronto staffers and families caught fire. No scientologists were home at the time. The neighbors told the firemen there were 30 people in the house, the firemen counted 47 beds, zero extinguishers, and two smoke alarms without batteries.
(In terms of crowding, RPF isn't all that much worse than scientology staff housing.)
What came of it? Nothing of course. The scientologists had to find a new place they could crowd into, but nobody was charged for violating the bylaws on occupancy levels or lack of fire alarms.
>I don't think there would be any crimes being committed inside this
>rpf. Not crimes in the Legal sense anyway. For I don't believe that
>anyone is ~ever~ on the rpf but that they agree to being on this rpf.
>They are lucky, the COS is lucky that I, Ted Mayett, am not interested
>in this rpf song and dance. Because I have the power to expose the
>thing fully if I ever decided it needed to be exposed.
>No way, never happen, that I would go to Police or the FBI or anything
>and *request* that this issue be investigated. Never happen. I would
>storm the place with a cell phone, and they would have to pay
>attention. Once I dialed 911, identified myself and the location I
>was at, there is no way I would leave that building dead or seriously
>injured. This issue could easily be forced by anyone who truly felt
>that crimes were being committed against people.
>But those of you who wail and gnash your teeth over this horrible
>horrible thing... bah. Shut up or do something about the situation.
>OH, you can't do anything, you are powerless, you are useless, what a
>bummer :( You got a million good reasons why you can't do anything
>about this, gee that's awesome.
I have an excuse. :-)
>You posture and carry on and you sound like, "They are forcing people
>to starve to death in that building there." And you get in the
>building, force your way into the building, and you find a religious
>belief that calls for fasting 3 days a month. And somehow this 3 day
>fasting has turned into, "they are starving people to death in that
>This rpf is no more illegal than disconnection is illegal. But post
>away why don't you. Make a lot of noise, use up bandwidth. You might
>get lucky, you might get someone like me interested in this issue.
>Someone with the Power, the Cunning, and the Intelligence to force
>something like this into the limelight.
>OTOH, I don't doubt that were I to storm this rpf location in LA, that
>I maybe wouldn't find some fool chained to a wall or something like
>that. That could easily happen. What I doubt however is that the
>person so chained to the wall would want Freedom or would be willing
>to press charges against the COS.
>And there I would be, a successful victor of this campaign with
>picture proof of this and that... and nothing would come of it
>whatsoever. Except maybe I would spend a few days in jail for
>breaking and entering or something like that. And I'd have a kewl
>story to tell the chicks and maybe get laid. (some of them like that
>kind of thing)
>Yes, the COS is lucky. For if I, me, were bothered by this rpf thing
>I would not be posting about it, I would be *doing* something about
>it. But you people are aware that nothing can be done about this rpf
>thing. So you post lies instead. How very clever.
>But if you do decide to storm the place. You need a few days
>reconnaissance first. You should have escape routes planned if they
>are needed. You'd want to know what radio frequencies they use of
>course. How many guards and if they have a pattern of sorts. When
>the time comes to move on the place you set up and call in a
>distraction a few blocks away, move their main guard force away from
>your entry point.. and then maybe easily walk into the place.
If you really wanted to have an effect, collect a dozen former scns. Invade the place and blockade yourselves in with the RPF. I don't think you would need lethal force, but mace and tasers would be a good idea, and lots of cell phones. Use tone 40 and take the whole RPF hostage.
They are already people who have demonstrated intense bonding under stress. Get them to bond to your group like the story of the bank robbery that gave the Stockholm Syndrome its name. Dominate them scare the hell out of them but show them acts of kindness. (Like ordering in pizza or bergers and milk shakes. :-) )
Make a real drama out of it, lots of press, cops all over, DM or better Heber going apeshit on camera. String it out several days to give the inmates a chance to bond with you and the story to build. (The cops are going to be as reluctant to do the wishes of scientology as they are to do that of critics.) Then out the windows with the lot of them on sheet ladders.
Sheesh. I just outlined a million dollar script. Do you suppose we could get Heber to play himself?
>OTOH, they are somewhat good at security. About 1992 I attend some
>Gala Event at the CC INT. I was quite impressed by the security they
>used, it was *good*. And then it came to pass that security was
>moving in on me. I spotted that before it happened and led them in a
>circle and decided to set the meeting spot in the center of the event.
>They sent in two women wearing evening gowns for the confrontation.
>The confrontation went smoothly, they relaxed security on me almost
>totally. But then I was a monkey in good standing at the time. But
>even so, I could have fooled them, they weren't really that good.
>If the rpf bothers you, storm the place and expose it.
>I would, and I could, if I so desired.
>What's your excuse anyway?