On Wed, 04 Jul 2001 17:32:16 GMT, [email protected] (Gregg) wrote:
>These things are amazing. Might be useful for folks doing cult
>studies. This was done I think August 16 of 2000 Keith Henson
>TRANSCRIPT OF INTERVIEWS AT GOLDEN ERA PRODUCTION STUDIOS, 2000
snip This one is even stranger. She does not know the address where she lives, and the rant section is clearly someone who the cult has pushed very close to the edge. She really seems concerned about what I had on my signs, such as the names of the victims killed out there. Keith Henson
NEXT INTERVIEW: TG: You want me to do some? ?? . . . This this'll be less painful HD: 20 years ago. TG: This'll be less painful. Have a seat. HD: This is dark, isn't it? Looks ??? near? (They both laugh.) TG: OK, first of all, let me get your . . . your last name. HD: D-e-s-o-t-e-l-l. (?) TG: First name? HD: Hilary. H-i-l-a-r-y. TG: What's your date of birth, Hilary? HD: 16 April '52. TG: 4/16/52. You all have business cards, huh? HD: Yeah. . . . If you . . . TG: So you're part of Public Relations, with Muriel. HD: Yeah. I do the actors. TG: You have a very good job. HD: I do the crying act as well????? I let 'em in last week TG: They were here last week? HD: We were in LA. We had a big show in LA. TG: Oh, that's right. HD: He didn't talk to me, though. TG: He didn't? Why? HD: Well, I just . . . you know. Doesn't know me. TG: Aw. Yeah, I saw that deal where uh ?? 's a scientologist. I didn't know that. HD: Oh yeah. That's been a long time. TG: Has she? HD: Yeah yeah. She shot ?? here. TG: Oh. HD: And ??? TG: What's your address, Hilary? HD: Um (hesitates) TG: Do you live on Kirby? Or do you . . ? HD: Uh uh uh yeah Kirby. I actually don't know what number it is. Whatever it is. TG: 750 North Kirby. That . . . HD: That's fine. TG: And what's your apartment number? HD: 9C TG: 9C. You don't have a phone there, do you? HD: No. TG: Nobody has a phone in there, do they? HD: I don't know. There may be one or two. You know, for emergency calls or whatever. TG: Oh, OK. HD: Yeah. TG: OK. Tell me what you know about Keith Henson. HD: Everything I know about him. TG: Not everything, but . . . HD: Like, well what I know is uh what I've heard new about him, a couple of years ago, I suppose, I heard that he did this weird thing. I forget what you call it, where you freeze things and uh (laughs nervously) that thing you might build it up as a joke. He was going on about this ICBM, inter . . . I what do you call it? TG: ICBM, yeah. HD: Yeah. So I realized the potential of he can actually pull something off. TG: Where did you hear about the ICBM? HD: Uh . . . Mr. Hoden, I think. TG: Have you received any literature from Mr. Hoden about Henson? HD: Um . . .no. I've seen the odd thing in passing. I've seen this um this whole pack that was like a . . . I worked with Muriel ?? on that when we went to Sierra Dawn. TG: Um-hum. HD: Um so I saw those documents. Uh that's where I saw the ICBM thing because I you know we don't care about words, so we don't learn any of that, and then I kind of put 2 and 2 together. 'Cause I'm not a computer person. I don't know how to do the Internet thing. TG: So you didn't know anything about him until last week, then? HD: Oh, no, I did. I knew before then. Before then, um a couple of years ago, like I said. And I heard then that he was um and as I said I just blew it off as weird . . . TG: The freezing and the bodies. . . ? HD: Yeah. TG: Have you heard anything about any explosives, or anything like that? HD: Yeah. That he has this thing trained on a satellite um TG: And again, that was from Mr. Hoden? That you heard that he . . . ? HD: Yeah, well, ??? it was a written piece of communication from his Internet thing, where he said he had taught kids how to use explosives. TG: Where did you get that? HD: From ???? TG: From ???. OK. So all of your knowledge about Mr. Henson is from Mr. Hoden and . . . ? So you don't surf the Internet? HD: No. TG: So you haven't read any of the postings on the Internet? HD: Oh, when it was printed? TG: Right. HD: Oh, yeah. TG: So I mean you don't surf the Net. You actually brought it up and read it. HD: No. TG: No. Um are you part of this group that . . . HD: I mean, I've seen him. TG: Yeah. You've seen him out picketing. HD: Yeah. TG: Are you part of this group um that's involved with this drill activation? Do you have the beeper that . . . ? HD: Yeah. TG: Yeah. OK. Tell me about that. HD: Well, we get um drill activate page, and then we know we have to go certain ways, you know we have to use certain tunnels because it I know it makes me freak out because he's up there and I mean either you go "OK, he's harmless," but when I know all these things, and I know it's true because there's legal documents that I see, you know uh, as you said, "I'm with you," you could say there could be a lot of hot air. He could say something and not actually mean it, uh I mean I deal with people a lot but I mean it freaks me out because I'm going like this because you keep thinking of something being dropped down, it would be like (bah) so easy. So when the drill is activated we have to scurry around this way and scurry around that way, and you know for our own safety. AND YOU KNOW BECAUSE HE'S GOT ALL THIS WHATEVER HE'S GOT WRITTEN ON HIS SIGNS, WHICH IS JUNK. And I don't work 7 days a week, 15 years of my life because I'm stupid and because the church doesn't do any good and just a bunch of way to spend time. No way. I have high IQ. I'm not, you know, blocking anything. I was highly successful in business before I came in scientology and never ever been to work and been freaked out while I've been working like you know the pages go off and I'm like I can't I cannot have freedom. It is one thing to go from one side of the property to the other, so it inhibits my job just for starters. So then I might be with a visitor, which is my job, I'm like a host for everyone who comes up. We have everyone from Jenna Elfman to you know some local horserider guy or whatever. So I hate it; it's inhibiting. But, aside from that, knowing that he does teach kids to put bombs together and knowing that he is 2 bricks short of a load somehow, and that he ?? uses it, from what I can gather, missed his movie or whatever, I ?? I mean I'm not 15 years old, if you know what I mean. Um it freaks me out because he would only have to be ?? he would only have to be like a puppet in a way. HE'S OBVIOUSLY BEING RUN BY SOMEBODY, I DON'T KNOW WHO. But he would only have to be told to ?? and you know HE COULD MAKE OUR LIVES AT LEAST UNCOMFORTABLE. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT HE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO PRESS THE BUTTON, THOUGH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE COLD WAR WAS ALL ABOUT. TG: So you you don't actually think he's going to blow you up? As a person, not not from the stuff that you're receiving from the church, but that HD: Well only TG: . . . person. Do you think he's going to blow you up? HD: When I first read that stuff I thought he was actually plotting this, and now I . . . don't see him as a harmless creep at all. TG: As a harmless creep? HD: What I did before. TG: OK. HD: I am definitely aware. He is totally capable. He's intelligent. He's totally capable. Why do I say that? Because of the way he writes, um you know, I've read enough. Um I've also read his writings. That's when I first learned about the freezing thing-his written documentation or book or whatever it was on this uh "cryology" or whatever it is I'm supposed to call it. Uh ??? I . . . I . . . I'm trained to deal with people, have been for many years, so it's kinda like, "yes, he could." I mean, I don't know where the coordinates are. How they actually do this from a computer, but I figure I'd better get in the real world but I . . . TG: But you . . . are you physically afraid that something's gonna happen? HD: Oh yeah. Absolutely. TG: On your drill activations, are you responsible for contacting people underneath you to let them know that the activation is going? HD: No. TG: So my understanding is there's only about a hundred people out of 735 out here that have the beeper. Because obviously Mr. Hoden doesn't want mass hysteria. HD: No. Yeah. TG: So how do the people that don't have the beeper know that the drill activation is going? HD: Well, it gets passed on what person to person? TG: Um-hum. HD: Um and I think the few that do get it sort of get posted in certain areas. Then they . . . they pass it on. TG: One area's doing the post ?? then HD: So then when we're passing they say whether it's OK to go or not. It not only . . . when the pager goes off it not only gives me the creeps you know I mean I instantly shrug shrugged my shoulders I realized when you asked me because I feel like something's going to be dropped down my neck any second. I (makes sound) it's just like it's creepy. It's more than creepy. Could he do something? Absolutely! And just because I don't know how intergalactic, intersatellite whatever the heck ballistic whatevers work, I have TG: Missiles? HD: . . . the knowhow to realize that this could easily be done. So yeah I am genuinely afraid. TG: Have you been notified prior to this morning that I was going to interview you? HD: No, I wasn't. TG: Have you been told what to say? HD: No. TG: So prior to this morning you had no idea that you were going to be talking to a detective. HD: I didn't. I knew other people were, but I just was told like 5 minutes before I got into the vehicle. TG: OK. OK. Thanks. I got another room for you to sit in and wait.