Annie Mora, OSA staffer, was asked who was in charge of Lisa being in the Cabana. Annie mentions Alain Kartuzinski (the Case Supervisor) and Security. She does not mention the Medical Liaison Office.
She seems to confirm that Lisa was being prepared for the Introspection Rundown.
2 A. Well, our concern at that time was to -- you know, 3 that she would sleep and she would rest and she would eat 4 and she would calm -- calm down and, you know, come back to 5 herself. 6 Q. Okay. That sounds like a good plan. 7 Who was in charge of implementing that? 8 A. I don't remember exactly. I mean it's covered -- 9 as you know now, it's covered in -- in LRH written material 10 on what to do with someone who's in that state. 11 Q. Right. 12 Maybe you missed my question. She's there to -- 13 it's been testified before, it's no mystery to me, that she 14 was there to be calmed down in order to get more auditing 15 for what may be called an Introspection Rundown or further 16 auditing to bring her back to normal. Were you aware of 17 that? 18 A. Uh-huh. 19 Q. Okay. Who's in charge of that? Who's in charge 20 of her being in the hospital -- being in the Cabana? Who's 21 overseeing this thing? 22 A. Well, there's two -- there's two points of view or 23 two concern terminals. One is Alain Kartuzinski, because he 24 was at that time the Case Supervisor -- 25 Q. Correct. Page 3496 Image
1 A. -- for her. And Security on the other hand, 2 because here we have a person who is a security concern. 3 You know, we don't know If she's going to hurt herself, 4 break a window, alarm neighbors -- 5 Q. I understand. 6 A. -- attract police. You know, this is a security 7 concern. It's -- it was very unusual to have someone in her 8 condition there.
Later, on p. 101, the officers are trying to clarify some of the jargon in a report Annie wrote. (Do we have this report anywhere?) It sounds as if Lisa had a Joberg Sec Check:
3 Q. Joberg? 4 A. That's a type of confessional procedure. 5 Q. Could you explain that? 6 A. I don't -- I don't know why it has the name 7 Joberg, but that's the name that LRH gave that kind of 8 confessional. And I don't even know the questions that are 9 on it. I just know it's the type of confessional which are 10 done in an auditing session.
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